<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Sheet Music for &#8220;Another Garryowen&#8221;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:45:23 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryker Keath</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryker Keath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 02:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-910</guid>
		<description>THANK YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Claus Hessler</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>Claus Hessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-391</guid>
		<description>Hi Abaeterno,
thanks for the additional input. In fact I did not know about Fritz Berger owning an original copy of the &quot;ordonannce royal&quot; - that really is interesting. Do you know where to find pieces or excerpts from it? If you&#039;d like to share any of that information you could also contact me through my website www.claushessler.de ... Thanks!
Best,

Claus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Abaeterno,<br />
thanks for the additional input. In fact I did not know about Fritz Berger owning an original copy of the &#8220;ordonannce royal&#8221; &#8211; that really is interesting. Do you know where to find pieces or excerpts from it? If you&#8217;d like to share any of that information you could also contact me through my website <a href="http://www.claushessler.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.claushessler.de</a> &#8230; Thanks!<br />
Best,</p>
<p>Claus</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Abaeterno</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>Abaeterno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-390</guid>
		<description>Meeting your site just by chance, scrutinizing the net for 16th century habits in drumming and piping. French kings, who traditionally used Swiss mercenaries at a certain moment released an « ordonnance royale » about drumming, signals and marches. An original copy of such an ordonnance was in possession of Dr. Fritz Berger from Basle (author of a special way to write down drumming elements).

One of his friends was a French drumming teacher, Monsieur Gould or Goult, I think. I think he was leading a drumming school « Académie des tambours .... ». One of Fritz Berger&#039;s composition was the « Radac-Tagwacht ». « Ras » in French is a series of strokes 5, 7, 9 etc., which word he combined with « d&#039;Académie », hence RADAC.

In French, « la charge » is the attack. The « coup de charge », according to him, was a former signal supposed to coordinate the movements of the first three rows of pikes.

Kind regards from Switzerland
Abaeterno</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meeting your site just by chance, scrutinizing the net for 16th century habits in drumming and piping. French kings, who traditionally used Swiss mercenaries at a certain moment released an « ordonnance royale » about drumming, signals and marches. An original copy of such an ordonnance was in possession of Dr. Fritz Berger from Basle (author of a special way to write down drumming elements).</p>
<p>One of his friends was a French drumming teacher, Monsieur Gould or Goult, I think. I think he was leading a drumming school « Académie des tambours &#8230;. ». One of Fritz Berger&#8217;s composition was the « Radac-Tagwacht ». « Ras » in French is a series of strokes 5, 7, 9 etc., which word he combined with « d&#8217;Académie », hence RADAC.</p>
<p>In French, « la charge » is the attack. The « coup de charge », according to him, was a former signal supposed to coordinate the movements of the first three rows of pikes.</p>
<p>Kind regards from Switzerland<br />
Abaeterno</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JimFarey</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>JimFarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 20:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-375</guid>
		<description>Hey Claus,

Thanks for the reply. Sorry to be so slow to come back again. Good info about the Coup de Charge and &quot;Fla&quot;, I had wondered where Pataflafla came from, and now I&#039;m half way there.

Perhaps I can pick your brains at PASIC or later if not.

Thanks again.

Jimbo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Claus,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reply. Sorry to be so slow to come back again. Good info about the Coup de Charge and &#8220;Fla&#8221;, I had wondered where Pataflafla came from, and now I&#8217;m half way there.</p>
<p>Perhaps I can pick your brains at PASIC or later if not.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>Jimbo</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Claus Hessler</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>Claus Hessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-360</guid>
		<description>Jim,
thanks for your comment. In fact it seems to be hard to separate certain Swiss and French influences. Some patterns (like the &quot;Pataflafla&quot;) are used by both (&quot;fla&quot; is the french term for &quot;flam&quot;). The &quot;Coup de Charge&quot; pattern in its basic form as the Swiss use it is just two accented notes very close together. The &quot;Flammed Coup de Charge&quot; still has an additional grace note on the first of the two strokes. The term &quot;Charge&quot; in that context comes from charging or attacking the enemy. I guess a one-on-one question/answer situation would indeed be the best to clarify any misunderstandings. And yes, making it sound like music is the hardest part :-)
Claus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
thanks for your comment. In fact it seems to be hard to separate certain Swiss and French influences. Some patterns (like the &#8220;Pataflafla&#8221;) are used by both (&#8220;fla&#8221; is the french term for &#8220;flam&#8221;). The &#8220;Coup de Charge&#8221; pattern in its basic form as the Swiss use it is just two accented notes very close together. The &#8220;Flammed Coup de Charge&#8221; still has an additional grace note on the first of the two strokes. The term &#8220;Charge&#8221; in that context comes from charging or attacking the enemy. I guess a one-on-one question/answer situation would indeed be the best to clarify any misunderstandings. And yes, making it sound like music is the hardest part <img src='http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Claus</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JimFarey</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>JimFarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-359</guid>
		<description>Also, sorry, you mentioned the flammed Coup de Charge. One of my old teachers had me play similar but simpler ideas where the flam was essentially backwards with the accent first. I think he called it a Charge note and I&#039;m certain he said it was french rudimental vocabulary. Do you have any more insight on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, sorry, you mentioned the flammed Coup de Charge. One of my old teachers had me play similar but simpler ideas where the flam was essentially backwards with the accent first. I think he called it a Charge note and I&#8217;m certain he said it was french rudimental vocabulary. Do you have any more insight on this?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JimFarey</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-358</link>
		<dc:creator>JimFarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-358</guid>
		<description>Great piece Claus. I bought some snare etudes in various styles from around the Western world at PASIC last year and the phrasing is tricky as it is here.

I have always found that getting the finesse to make it lilt along is the hardest part, which takes far longer than just figuring out the slightly awkward subdivisions.

I shall have to come bother you for a history lesson some time and bring a snare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece Claus. I bought some snare etudes in various styles from around the Western world at PASIC last year and the phrasing is tricky as it is here.</p>
<p>I have always found that getting the finesse to make it lilt along is the hardest part, which takes far longer than just figuring out the slightly awkward subdivisions.</p>
<p>I shall have to come bother you for a history lesson some time and bring a snare.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Claus Hessler</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-346</link>
		<dc:creator>Claus Hessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-346</guid>
		<description>Hi Brad,

glad you like it. It&#039;s hard to compare it with other Basel style tunes for several reasons (e.g. some of the phrases I used will traditionally not appear in 6/8 time etc.). In terms of difficulty I would say it is definitely a pretty challenging piece; also in comparison to traditional Basel tunes. For a comparison I would recommend to check out any harder traditional Basel 6/8 piece like the &quot;Radac Tagwacht&quot; (Radac Reveille) or a (more french style) &quot;Rigodon Panache&quot;.
My rendition of the Garryowen has certain ingredients of both. Check out those - great stuff!

For notation I used Finale, the flam sign in the notehead is an articulation sign that I created out of a regular little &quot;l&quot; from any writing font.

Regarding your rhythmic question you are absolutely right; it should rather be 16th qintuplets than 32nd (bar 5 in part A and bar 3 in part B). The quintuplet happens during the counts of 1 and 2 respectively 4 and 5 -  the closing eight note of the phrase falls on the 3 and 6. Good point - have to fix that!

Claus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brad,</p>
<p>glad you like it. It&#8217;s hard to compare it with other Basel style tunes for several reasons (e.g. some of the phrases I used will traditionally not appear in 6/8 time etc.). In terms of difficulty I would say it is definitely a pretty challenging piece; also in comparison to traditional Basel tunes. For a comparison I would recommend to check out any harder traditional Basel 6/8 piece like the &#8220;Radac Tagwacht&#8221; (Radac Reveille) or a (more french style) &#8220;Rigodon Panache&#8221;.<br />
My rendition of the Garryowen has certain ingredients of both. Check out those &#8211; great stuff!</p>
<p>For notation I used Finale, the flam sign in the notehead is an articulation sign that I created out of a regular little &#8220;l&#8221; from any writing font.</p>
<p>Regarding your rhythmic question you are absolutely right; it should rather be 16th qintuplets than 32nd (bar 5 in part A and bar 3 in part B). The quintuplet happens during the counts of 1 and 2 respectively 4 and 5 &#8211;  the closing eight note of the phrase falls on the 3 and 6. Good point &#8211; have to fix that!</p>
<p>Claus</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Polyostinato</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-344</link>
		<dc:creator>Polyostinato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-344</guid>
		<description>Hi Claus,

Nice playing and thanks for offering the sheet music. I competed as a Scottish snare drummer so reading the notation wasn&#039;t a problem, though there are some interesting and challenging figures in the piece. How does this piece rate in terms of difficulty compared to other Basel style pieces?

Did you use Finale for the notation? If so, is that flam note head custom or part of the program? I use Finale but haven&#039;t noticed that particular symbol.

Shouldn&#039;t the quintuplets in the second and fifth lines be 1/16th note quints rather than 32nd note quints? You&#039;re fitting five sixteenths in the space of four, so if they&#039;re really 32nds, wouldn&#039;t you need a longer release tap or a rest at the end? As I read it, you&#039;ve only got four eighths in those measures. It&#039;s a small point, but I want to make sure I understand that what you mean is play a quint that ends on the third and sixth eighth notes in the measure. 

Thanks again,

Brad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Claus,</p>
<p>Nice playing and thanks for offering the sheet music. I competed as a Scottish snare drummer so reading the notation wasn&#8217;t a problem, though there are some interesting and challenging figures in the piece. How does this piece rate in terms of difficulty compared to other Basel style pieces?</p>
<p>Did you use Finale for the notation? If so, is that flam note head custom or part of the program? I use Finale but haven&#8217;t noticed that particular symbol.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t the quintuplets in the second and fifth lines be 1/16th note quints rather than 32nd note quints? You&#8217;re fitting five sixteenths in the space of four, so if they&#8217;re really 32nds, wouldn&#8217;t you need a longer release tap or a rest at the end? As I read it, you&#8217;ve only got four eighths in those measures. It&#8217;s a small point, but I want to make sure I understand that what you mean is play a quint that ends on the third and sixth eighth notes in the measure. </p>
<p>Thanks again,</p>
<p>Brad</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Claus Hessler</title>
		<link>http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/2010/05/29/sheet-music-for-another-garryowen/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Claus Hessler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 13:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/?p=1202#comment-328</guid>
		<description>Hi Mark,
glad you like it. The single stroke four is quite a common ingredient on french style rigodons - so I stole a little bit there as well :-) . Your are right; I also think that the Basel drummers use more much freedom in their interpretation as we usually do. There is also a number of very typical Swiss rudiments that are used quite frequently: Inverted Flam Taps (or Doublé as they  call it), Flammed rolls (like 5 stroke rolls beginnning with a flam) or certain combinations that you don&#039;t find at all in American Rudimental Drumming (like the combination of an accented flam plus another accent - which is called a &quot;flammed Coup de Charge&quot;). You find one of them on the very end of my piece. It is one of the oldest Swiss patterns; people say it was usually played when Swiss mercenaries attacked (or charging) their enemies with spears. 
The Swiss also use another special system of notation (developed by Dr. Fritz Berger) that is however under a special copyright, therefore you are usually not allowed to use that system unless you have permission of a Basel Publisher. Therefore I did not write in the absolutely traditional Swiss way ... I&#039;ll elaborate on some passages in my next post.
Claus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,<br />
glad you like it. The single stroke four is quite a common ingredient on french style rigodons &#8211; so I stole a little bit there as well <img src='http://www.vicfirth.com/exchange/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  . Your are right; I also think that the Basel drummers use more much freedom in their interpretation as we usually do. There is also a number of very typical Swiss rudiments that are used quite frequently: Inverted Flam Taps (or Doublé as they  call it), Flammed rolls (like 5 stroke rolls beginnning with a flam) or certain combinations that you don&#8217;t find at all in American Rudimental Drumming (like the combination of an accented flam plus another accent &#8211; which is called a &#8220;flammed Coup de Charge&#8221;). You find one of them on the very end of my piece. It is one of the oldest Swiss patterns; people say it was usually played when Swiss mercenaries attacked (or charging) their enemies with spears.<br />
The Swiss also use another special system of notation (developed by Dr. Fritz Berger) that is however under a special copyright, therefore you are usually not allowed to use that system unless you have permission of a Basel Publisher. Therefore I did not write in the absolutely traditional Swiss way &#8230; I&#8217;ll elaborate on some passages in my next post.<br />
Claus</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

